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quick comment ref your Upward Bound posting:

1) I did not see how to access your continued "free" viewing for nonsubscribers

2) there might have been a typo in the 3rd from last paragraph? "Instead of the disincentives that our current programs give, they will [not???] have strong material incentives to work full-time, get married, and have children.

Since you do not like OT comments, I will not say more here [delete this as you please].

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I think your distinction between cultural evolution as not really involving mass material improvements vs. progress that does provide that mass improvement is a useful aspect to consider. But your essay today seems to sort of by accident include advances of wider application, that also happen to have some technological aspects as well. Adopting hammers? Converging on particular clothing fashions. Perhaps examples of political structures or religious expansions should be included as part of cultural evolution, long before the modern technical world and scientific method came along?

This leads me to wonder if there isn't a tighter interconnection between those two states/ stages. In trying to understand this, it seems to me that cultural evolutions occurring without mass benefit must then be occurring in very structured or hierarchical societies, where only the leaders or wealthy can obtain them (in the short run). But isn't part of the definition of culture the set of behaviors and practices used by a given group of people? If that group is too small, is it really valid to call that a cultural impact or capability? I see something of a chicken and egg condition here?

[Upon rereading the above paragraph, perhaps it is more correct to explore such evolution as a bifurcated (or multiple set) result: distinct cultures evolved by the wealthy and the non-wealthy, etc. They are spread to subsets of the population but not to the total group -- therefore not "progress" per your definition.]

Plus, given the range of material progress exhibited by different societies over the last 200 years, your selection of the (particular cultural adaptation) of finding and using high density energy sources to jump over or bridge the Malthusian trap may be the major cultural adaptation among the whole long history of such cultural developments.

It occurred to me just now that the cultural evolution leading to adopting the scientific method might have been a necessary precursor to the wider discovery and use of fossil fuels? Someone had to discover the science of combustion and how to measure the relative energy available from various sources? In turn preceded by the discovery of gases and of oxygen in particular?

I will say that your Substack and Progress Project has caused me to explore more ideas and relationships than most of the previous political or technical topics I have been examining. Thank you for that.

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